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June 10, 2009

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Lazarus Long

Perhaps the Herald staff and Sen. Sanders live in rentals and never had to heat their homes. The realities of life and their practical solutions seem not to matter to those individuals and groups that wish to manage our lives. I guess I'm an evil hoarding swindler and cheat since I just topped off my two year stockpile of dead tree heating fuel.

Alec

I think there is some logic behind the mistrust we see in business.

Fair prouduct or service for a fair price seem to have given way to "how much can I get?".

How many people do "you" intentionally trust? Me? A small handful.

txgordo

Alec, if you were in business, wouldn't you want to get what the market would bear for your product or service? What happens in down years, when there is no demand for your p/s? How will you live? If you had received a market-driven price for your p/s, you would have resources to weather the downturns. In low times, people will feel sorry for you, because you've always been 'fair', but they can't afford you even then. In good times, you'll turn away business, that someone else will get paid more for, because the demand is there. Wouldn't you like to retire? Maybe early? Or do you want to work the rest of your life offering a 'fair' price? What if you are unable to work? You have to consider all these things, and accept what the market gives you.

Alec

No I wouldn't and no I don't.

I've run my current [successful]business for over 18 years. I have no employees and run all facets myself 7/365. I know other in the same business that do not produce the quality "product" in the fashion I do but they charge quite a bit more.

Could I get away with charging more? Yes.

Why don't I?

I'm comfortable with the price I charge being a fair fee for the service I provide.

I work more then some and less then others and I'm happy with how I run my business. Happier then I would be trying to squeeze every cent out of my clients.

Everyone has to make their own decisions, but to me, clearly many people make decisions I would not.

FWIW: My comments were about trust and the many reasons people have [IMO] to be distrustful.

It's quite the dichotomy that most people want to charge the most for a product or service they provide and pay the least for a product or service they purchase.

Chris Campion

Alex, that's not a dichotomy - it's a rational transaction. Why would you want to pay more for a product than you think it is worth? Why would you not want to maximize the price on any item you sell? There's no gun to anyone's head to buy a product - so if the price is too high, no one will buy it.

If you're not interested in increasing net income, that's great - but that doesn't mean that there's something wrong with somebody else who does. I'm still unsure as to why profits are treated like a red-headed stepchild at Christmas - profits keep businesses open. Profits mean mortgages get paid. Profits mean health insurance is available at a reasonable cost. Are these not positive effects of profitability?

Lazarus Long

I think some folks wish we could all just be sitting around in a drum circle and making nice with each other. Just like the Eloi.

Alec

It's AleC not AleX....

At what point does "maximizing" profit become greed? Is it only when the product is so over prices it won't sell?

I wrote: "Everyone has to make their own decisions, but to me, clearly many people make decisions I would not."

As for the drum circle.....Your point is that things are better when people don't get along?

Yeah, right.


GreggB

'I get 3 meals a day and I can't eat 4'
Welcome to VT, show some ambition and we will beat you down, you greedy bastard. That's better- group hug, then it's drum circle time.

Alec

Silly me, I thought this blog was above normal web BS. I guess not.

Please go back to patting each other on the back now.

VTC4L

Alec-

Have you ever received any assistance for your business from the State of Vermont? Your comprehension of business and economics would seem to me to qualify you for subsidies and grants out the ying-yang. What, pray tell, is the business you are engaged in?

Just for the heck of it, since you asked, I personally trust people most people... especially when they operate in their own self-interest. It's the people who tell me they're working for MY self-interest I have a big problem putting my faith in. This would include most of the politicians in Montpelier and, especially Bernie Sanders....

Talk about a back-patter.. did you ever get one of his newsletters?

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