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September 19, 2007

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frank mazur

Until parents take charge of education and force the legislature to level the playing field between the school board and teachers union education reform in Vermont will not happen.

Anonymous

Art: Curtis Hier says all we need to do is adjust classroom spending to 65% and everything will work out fine. Nice to see you talking about outcomes here.

Curtis Hier

Anonymous, let's get over our disagreement and move on. Obviously I have never said ALL we need to do is adjust classroom spending to 65 percent.

Voters have a certain amount of authority to affect change by voting budgets down. It is frustrating that it's difficult for voters to adopt benchmarks for spending and compare to different schools, because the numbers are kept so differently from district to district. I have recommended that percentages of current expeditures going to direct instruction and other categories be included in annual reports. The commissioner has it in his power to require it, but he's so far refused. If the information is good enough to see in the State's SASRS Report for 2006, then why can't we see it for our own schools for FY 2008?

Kavet and Rockler are correct in that supervisory union central offices take on certain expenses that in other districts are taken on by the individual schools. So I've recommended that we allocate SU expenses in calculating what each school spends for percentages in each category. Also, seeing what SU central offices spend has led me to support S.175 to require that spending to be voted on. Let's empower the voters by giving them good information. It's not ALL we need to do, but it's a start.

Gregg Ballou

Who cares how much education costs in VT. Think about the children, what about the children. And don't forget about the special needs children, but screw the gifted children.

Our lousy, but with a brand new bui8lding, elementary school is close to closing due to lack of enrollment and I hope it does before my kid starts school. Having a crappy local school certainly adds more impetus to moving and if I'm going to move I'm not stopping until I'm well over VT's border.

Tim Diette

Art, as usual I agree with your analysis. I would add one more piece to help the consumers of education evaluate the quality of schools: student growth or value-added measures of the test scores. The school level test scores are not an appropriate measure of the quality of the school unless all students enter school with the same test scores. Adding this bit of data would also help schools implement pay for performance. One final note, I don't have a problem with teaching to the test if it is a good test. I have not kept up with what tests are used in Vermont (as a resident of Virginia)...thanks...

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